There’s quite a bit of info available in NIR, LLC. Including the founder is Felix L. Song MD, who works with Queens, Trippler, Straub, Kaiser, Kapiolani… I’d say every major hospital on island.
Company was established in May of 2005.
The contracts you highlight to NIR are associated with procedures that are (not of themselves implants, but) for on-call patient services at Tripler exclusively, as part of a larger 3-year contract that was originally awarded in October of 22. But NIR has had similar contracts with the Defense Health Agency (the parent agency awarding funds to NIR) since 2005, when it was created.
It sounds like a weaker link to me than the others.
My local medical center/hospital in a small (3000 pop), Western Colorado rural town, has one number from a partially separate Ortho Dept. on caller id that shows up as DEFENSE HEALTH AGENCY!!
I have mentioned and inquired about why, and repeatedly told they don't know, but that others have also asked about it. It showed up sometime in 2019 or 2020, if I recall correctly.
And according to their own website, they perform an astounding number of ortho surgeries, with most traveling hours, to this really small place! That also means raking in the $$. The docs are also really young, good looking, "yuppy" types. Many travel from other places. And most disturbing to me, is the "military type" of religious shirts, along with military/militia type dress in photos with their children, on the hospital website.
The Ortho Dept also came in around 2018 or so, and have already added some pretty good size physical additions and tech upgrades.
It has really bugged me, but to see this now, is even more concerning to me. Not sure what to think, other than "down another bunny hole"!!
i feel like some one is in my head all the time its bewildering to say the least
is some one controlling my thoughts by default actions
went to jail for a night in santa cruz ca after some idiot started a fight with me
some civilian was there at intake and the first thing she asked me is do you think some one is controlling you
why the f would some stranger too me ask me this
although i was 8n some amount of distress becas of being jailed i answered her question i said yes i do feel that way
for what ever reason she seemed quite jubilant with my answer than i was whisked away to a holding cell with like 6 other people than turned lose in the morning
that was a strange encounter not with standing i was also attacked earlier about an hour earlier
cops forced the dude that attacked me to press charges though he kept screaming at them he did not want too
Have you submitted a FOIA request to find out more about the alleged shell company? I know the administration is famously hostile to FOIA requests so I don’t even know if it would work. This is some of the most disturbing investigative reporting I’ve ever read and I think we should all want to find out more. It is “highly concerning circumstantial alignment” that serious, heinous crimes could be taking place and you’re right that historically, it’s not beyond the pale for the U.S.
There is publicly available information about NIR on the official hawaiian business registry, as well as a few other places. i guess she just missed it? the owner is listed as a dr felix song who is a radiologist and lists tripler as one of the hospitals he works at. genuinely that looks completely normal to me and i think the NIR thing is just nothing
I've done a little tracking a time or two and the thread can lead to many sights. An example: The outdoor couches had just become Poplar but pricey. Online was a set too low to believe. Tracked to Midwest, which seemed unusual to ship from overseas to Midwest base of operation. Finally the scam was uncovered. The website owner was in Russia that listed assets on $250. If had taken the site at face value, I ‘m sure my card would have been maxed out and of course nothing to show for it. Also, Argentina citizens were tracked to as part owners companies doing business with the WH
almost all of the the FDA/CDRH people were hired back within a month. i'm not saying your proposal is fake (yet), but that one piece of evidence is off
The broader point about the chaos and rapid reversal still stands, but accuracy matters and I appreciate you catching that detail. Will add in The timeline for accuracy
Not to be a bummer, but NIR, LLC isn't a smoking gun. You can find who owns it though the Hawai'i Business Express, which is run by the state. It's run by Felix Song, a neuro-radiologist who works at six hospitals, including Tripler. I'm sorry to say, but the evidence you have only shows that Tripler has paid Dr. Song for his services, which involve reading CT scans and MRIs. Frankly, its fairly gross that you are so confidently making these connections and accusing a random doctor of Mengele-esque crimes against humanity when you don't even possess the basic knowledge for how to search business entities.
but like.. it’s kinda odd the detention center next door is getting people from THE SAME states as the FDA approved sites.. right? Also- I don’t think she grossly accused anyone? She’s just posting her findings with her sources. Never claimed anything was a fact?
She's alluding that this 'shell company' (which isn't one) has connections to the government while alluding that Hawai'i is the next step for these surgeries. That's about as clear cut an accusation as I can see. Otherwise, it serves no point in this entire article.
I'd also add that instead of focusing on the horrific practice of ICE moving detainees to prisons far from home, Drey is creating a story without evidence that distracts from a horrific and tangible problem that is actually happening.
Ok thank you. For some reason I was searching for NIC and couldn’t find a link. Definitely would have made a business entity search a first course of action, but I think it’s a stretch to say that Drey’s confidently making any connections, she seemed to be open to being wrong. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think Elon Musk would be up to some Mengele-esque debauchery. She wasn’t accusing doctor Song. I also wouldn’t say having a legit nuero-radiologist involved necessarily disproves anything she’s saying either. Nor do I think it distracts from the real issue of moving detainees around. In my eyes, all this does is draw attention to it, and raise the alarm that abuse could happen and no one would know. Calling it a smoking gun may have been a stretch, but aside from that, I am still curious to know more.
"Open to being wrong" doesn't make broad stroking connections nor insinuate, behind the plausible deniability of a disclaimer, that someone could be performing such cruel acts.
This entire post reads of objectivity. It's irresponsible at best, dishonest more likely, though.
Good catch, I did mean "behind", I just needed commas. It's hard 'cause the keyboard lags and the comment input gets hidden on Chrome on my phone so it's a pain to be precise.
I don't know what to say about your first "sentence". It makes zero sense. Putting up a disclaimer is a perfectly legit way to establish plausible deniability.
Name one thing she lied about or learn what the word "dishonest" means.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is on the first sentence, I think it's pretty clear I'm pointing out some bias. The person she decided to correct wasn't even the instigator.
It seems like you might have a poor grasp of the English language. You might know what you were trying to say, but it's not at all clear to me. There are at least 7 gramatical errors depending on what you were trying to type. "insinuate behind" is a nonsense coupling of words. "'open to being wrong' doesn't make broad-stroke [not stroking] connections" what? You never finished that clause.
You said she (Drey?) is being dishonest. How? What, specifically, did she lie about? Give me a quote where she said something false.
Of course the author is bias. That doesn't make anything she said a lie.
Also you're acting condescending while conflating 2 individual points I've made to be the same but questioning my grasp on the English language?
I said she was bias towards the person she was calling out, dip shit. Spend more time trying to comprehend a comment before going full neck beard.
Intellectual dishonesty is when you build a narrative on a foundational piece of evidence that was incorrect. If you're curious what that is, read the thread you're replying in.
The idea that I have to give you every single piece of context to the conversation that's ongoing for you to be able to decipher what I'm saying is moronic. If you want to prance around acting condescending, how about amass some authentic intelligence instead of this neck beard regurgitation?
WTF does your first sentence even mean? Is it intentional gibberish or are you possibly under-educated and out of your depth? Either way, I'm not hearing from you again.
Idk, our governments been doing it to whatever group they think people don’t care about: prisoners, black people, mentally disabled children, the military. Nazi Germany taught America the value of institutionalization for the purposes of human experimentation. The same web that allowed those abuses-the MIC-continues to exist for the benefit of the ruling elites. Profit on the destruction of humans. Sick people.
you have one follower and three posts, two from “lucky” . lol. you quasi fed DOGE AI freaks are SO incredibly TRANSPARENT. Like, really, you need to up ur game on the soc media scenario bc 🫢 i mean really, you should be embarrassed.
Would you say that to the ones who instigated the poor behavior or just the one disagreeing with you?
This smells like a farce & come on, the comment you're responding to is so polite in response to the accusation from your subscriber.
Kind of telling of your integrity, so with the very loose gaps, I no longer believe you "missed information". I believe you're dishonest & just trying to get your 15 minutes on a conspiracy theory 0 day.
Seems like there's actually an abundant need for that kind of attitude here. Nobody is keeping you in check and your worst, sloppiest impulses are spinning out of control, and these unhinged commenters you're receiving are validating your poor work.
Is your theory really that everybody that is real would believe the same conspiracy fodder you believe? That can't possibly be your heuristic for deciding who is real or honest is it? What makes it so hard for you to believe that people that disagree with you don't exist? And why do you find it surprising that someone who disagrees with this nutty post would scroll through the comments and find them jarring (and possibly respond to them) because so many people believe the crazy?
You implied it, pretty strongly. Don't be a weasel, if you're calling someone chatgpt because of their opinion, you're clearly suggesting that you believe someone with that opinion (opposing your opinion) can't be real.
I implied that I suspect Patrick might be a bot. I suspect that for many reasons, none of which have to do with their opinion.
NOT *"believe"*, **suspect**
NOT *"is"*, **might be**
NOT *"everyone"*, just **Patrick**
NOT *"because of their opinion"*
I never said I believe this conspiracy theory. I find it compelling, but I don't see a smoking gun.
I never said my "heuristic for deciding who is real" is if someone believes what I believe. It isn't.
I never said it's "hard for [me] to believe that someone who disagrees with [me] don't [sic] exist". I know people who don't agree with me exist.
I never said I "find it suprising that someone who disagrees...". I don't.
That's at least 8 false assumptions all rolled up in your comment.
I'm not "[being] a weasel". I'm pointing out your straw-man.
I don't owe you an explaination of why I made the comment I made, but since you asked so "nicely":
My main reason for suspecting Patrick might be a robot is that my other conversation with him devolved quickly into nonsense. They wrote a garbled sentence that seems to be about the author hiding behind plausible deniability, but it's not clear. Then they claimed it was about "bias" and instead of clarifying what they meant to write, they claimed I was being intelectually dishonest. Like I was pretending to not understand a mangled sentence or something. They said OP was guilty of being "dishonest" and repeatedly failed to even address what she said that was a lie or misleading.
At first, I suspected English might not be their native language, but they denied any gramtical errors and use vocabulary that sugests otherwise. However, they seemed incapable of addressing previous comments and changed the subject nearly every reply.
I think it's dumb that someone posting so many replies in the comments of a single article would tell others to touch grass. I don't think that indicates a robot. Just a hypocrite who lacks self-awareness.
I think it's suspect that their account is so new and they only have one friend who's also replying to this one comment thread, but I'm also very new to sub-stack, so I don't think that's a smoking gun. Also, their handle "disruptingtheechochamber" doesn't particularly smack of bot. YouTube is crawling with bots and a big clue is usually a name like "VenomFang-a8e9fjen". When I see that, I check their profile and usually it's obvious. Like their account is brand new.
Over half of all engagement is generated by bots, so you start out with 50/50 chance any comment is from a bot apriori. I know Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, and many others are infested. I don't know about Substack.
I am confused. Why like my comment elsewhere that makes the same point in my retort if you're part of the "all opposition to this misinformation is hired by Elon" camp?
That confuses me. Which of us is misunderstanding?
It's really amusing to me how many of you invent your own story of what I'm doing or believe purely based on the most ambiguous criticism possible lol.
"Awfully invested" and "working hard" is fucking hilarious, though. Like I made I think 3-4 random comments lmao. I don't even remember this thread exists 'til one of you goofballs give me something to laugh at.
The problem isn't the investigation, the problem is the investigation failed. Immediately it failed. The first piece of foundational information is untrue.
I don't think this is difficult to grasp, but I recognize that this corner of the internet seems to be for conspiracy theorists who don't really subscribe to the whole "standards for evidence" thing.
I encourage investigation. I discourage lying. Hope that clears it up.
Also if your predictable response is "well you don't even explain how she's lying"; 438 others including myself have in these comments. I know reading on a subject with the possibility of disproving your preconceived notions might be against your nature, but indulge reality a bit just this once.
The way to prove that nothing shady is happening to the detainees is to have transparent oversight into their detention process. That is not happening. So literally anything could be going on inside those walls. Rather than specific conspiracies (which may or may not be true), we should all be demanding to know how these people are being treated and cared for. There should be records and independent agencies checking on them to make sure they are being treated humanely.
Could you tell me where you get the death counts from brain problems at Krome from?? The one from January 2025 was not brain related but was rapid muscle breakdown, rhabdomyolysis. The one from December 2024 was kidney failure. Only one of those is brain related. These don't suggest patterns of brain surgery, they suggest patterns of neglecting medical care.
I found 3, Genry Ruiz-Guillén died to “schizoaffective disorder” Matsym Chernyak who died to seizures, brain bleeds ect. & Ramesh Amechand who (like others) have no cause of death. Idk if he counts but he fits the dates so I included
Genry Ruiz Guillen is the one who died of rhabdomyolysis, according to non-ICE affiliated physicians. Chernyak's own lawyer said he died from an overdose after ICE waited 40 minutes to call for medical help. Amechand reported chest pains before his death, but that's accord to ICE's own documentation. But no documentation that he died of anything brain related.
In August you saw heat map/incinerator activity near AA in the Everglades, are there similar patterns near the ICE facilities in Phoenix and Honolulu????
Please send this to Rachel Maddow at MSNBC. I'm sure you know who she is, she is a brilliant investigative journalist, Rhodes Scholar and fierce voice for the people. This needs to get put out to the public. It makes total sense that Elon Musk would do this because he has no care for humanity. This makes complete sense that they are using these detainees as Guinea pigs. Please be careful because people like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel have people “taken care of” when they get in their way 🙏 you sound a lot like me when I start going down the rabbit hole I can't stop, but you have a voice to get this out there 💪
Randall Gamboa Esquivel was disappeared to Port Isabel Detention Center with no contact with his family or legal representation. Port Isabel Detention Center is just a few miles North of Starbase.
Mr. Esquivel was just recently deported to Costa Rica in critical condition. He was in a vegitative state and pictures of him look strikingly like a concentration camp victim. His family was given no explaination. He died shortly after arriving home.
Hopefully an Autopsy report will be made public.
Another thing I find strange is: When you search Google for news of Randall Gamboa Esquivel, the closest thing to a major US news outlet is CNN Español. It reminds me of how little coverage the "right to rape" protests in Israel got. Barely anyone in the US even knows such madness took place.
It's distressing how much we have to rely on social media and foreign news outlets for actual news...
You are correct. Same system they used on the military to experiment on humans in the 50s, with government NGO funding of university labs. They have a whole secret web. Atomic Energy Commission. Camp Lejeune. This didn’t just start.
You’re not imagining patterns- I’ve also seen this. Thank you for your investigative work on this
Glad you are talking about. More people need to see what's going on beneath the surface. been going on for too long
The most dangerous man on earth. Genocide is a very real possibility. Human Beings are no “better” than Robots.
Absolutely terrifying. And sadly I believe you. What the actual F!
There’s quite a bit of info available in NIR, LLC. Including the founder is Felix L. Song MD, who works with Queens, Trippler, Straub, Kaiser, Kapiolani… I’d say every major hospital on island.
Company was established in May of 2005.
The contracts you highlight to NIR are associated with procedures that are (not of themselves implants, but) for on-call patient services at Tripler exclusively, as part of a larger 3-year contract that was originally awarded in October of 22. But NIR has had similar contracts with the Defense Health Agency (the parent agency awarding funds to NIR) since 2005, when it was created.
It sounds like a weaker link to me than the others.
My local medical center/hospital in a small (3000 pop), Western Colorado rural town, has one number from a partially separate Ortho Dept. on caller id that shows up as DEFENSE HEALTH AGENCY!!
I have mentioned and inquired about why, and repeatedly told they don't know, but that others have also asked about it. It showed up sometime in 2019 or 2020, if I recall correctly.
And according to their own website, they perform an astounding number of ortho surgeries, with most traveling hours, to this really small place! That also means raking in the $$. The docs are also really young, good looking, "yuppy" types. Many travel from other places. And most disturbing to me, is the "military type" of religious shirts, along with military/militia type dress in photos with their children, on the hospital website.
The Ortho Dept also came in around 2018 or so, and have already added some pretty good size physical additions and tech upgrades.
It has really bugged me, but to see this now, is even more concerning to me. Not sure what to think, other than "down another bunny hole"!!
i feel like some one is in my head all the time its bewildering to say the least
is some one controlling my thoughts by default actions
went to jail for a night in santa cruz ca after some idiot started a fight with me
some civilian was there at intake and the first thing she asked me is do you think some one is controlling you
why the f would some stranger too me ask me this
although i was 8n some amount of distress becas of being jailed i answered her question i said yes i do feel that way
for what ever reason she seemed quite jubilant with my answer than i was whisked away to a holding cell with like 6 other people than turned lose in the morning
that was a strange encounter not with standing i was also attacked earlier about an hour earlier
cops forced the dude that attacked me to press charges though he kept screaming at them he did not want too
they made up some false charge and away i went
charges dropped
all started with twin tower cover up and ok city bombing
Have you submitted a FOIA request to find out more about the alleged shell company? I know the administration is famously hostile to FOIA requests so I don’t even know if it would work. This is some of the most disturbing investigative reporting I’ve ever read and I think we should all want to find out more. It is “highly concerning circumstantial alignment” that serious, heinous crimes could be taking place and you’re right that historically, it’s not beyond the pale for the U.S.
There is publicly available information about NIR on the official hawaiian business registry, as well as a few other places. i guess she just missed it? the owner is listed as a dr felix song who is a radiologist and lists tripler as one of the hospitals he works at. genuinely that looks completely normal to me and i think the NIR thing is just nothing
But it’s odd the detention center is getting detainees from the 2 fda approved sites.. right?
No that's just regular life in a fascist dystopia.
Perhaps, but given the current circumstances and historical record we are better safe than sorry to verify fully
I've done a little tracking a time or two and the thread can lead to many sights. An example: The outdoor couches had just become Poplar but pricey. Online was a set too low to believe. Tracked to Midwest, which seemed unusual to ship from overseas to Midwest base of operation. Finally the scam was uncovered. The website owner was in Russia that listed assets on $250. If had taken the site at face value, I ‘m sure my card would have been maxed out and of course nothing to show for it. Also, Argentina citizens were tracked to as part owners companies doing business with the WH
Coming over from tiktok, loved the video. I was wondering where your work cited were?
Sources are at the bottom of the post
almost all of the the FDA/CDRH people were hired back within a month. i'm not saying your proposal is fake (yet), but that one piece of evidence is off
The broader point about the chaos and rapid reversal still stands, but accuracy matters and I appreciate you catching that detail. Will add in The timeline for accuracy
CDRH- Center for Devices and Radiological Health, Food and DrugAdministration, DHHS, USA
You are a Super sleuth!!!
We see what happens when they investigate themselves though an Independent review board is in order
Not to be a bummer, but NIR, LLC isn't a smoking gun. You can find who owns it though the Hawai'i Business Express, which is run by the state. It's run by Felix Song, a neuro-radiologist who works at six hospitals, including Tripler. I'm sorry to say, but the evidence you have only shows that Tripler has paid Dr. Song for his services, which involve reading CT scans and MRIs. Frankly, its fairly gross that you are so confidently making these connections and accusing a random doctor of Mengele-esque crimes against humanity when you don't even possess the basic knowledge for how to search business entities.
but like.. it’s kinda odd the detention center next door is getting people from THE SAME states as the FDA approved sites.. right? Also- I don’t think she grossly accused anyone? She’s just posting her findings with her sources. Never claimed anything was a fact?
Everything in Honolulu is 15 minutes away from each other btw
She's alluding that this 'shell company' (which isn't one) has connections to the government while alluding that Hawai'i is the next step for these surgeries. That's about as clear cut an accusation as I can see. Otherwise, it serves no point in this entire article.
As for the Honolulu FDC getting people from out of state, that's sadly very common for ICE. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-09-26/faster-more-frequent-transfers-of-immigrant-ice-detainees-sow-fear-and-cut-off-resources
I'd also add that instead of focusing on the horrific practice of ICE moving detainees to prisons far from home, Drey is creating a story without evidence that distracts from a horrific and tangible problem that is actually happening.
"Claims about patterns and connections represent the author’s analysis of documented facts and timelines."
From the final section named "Investigative Methodology"
Ok thank you. For some reason I was searching for NIC and couldn’t find a link. Definitely would have made a business entity search a first course of action, but I think it’s a stretch to say that Drey’s confidently making any connections, she seemed to be open to being wrong. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think Elon Musk would be up to some Mengele-esque debauchery. She wasn’t accusing doctor Song. I also wouldn’t say having a legit nuero-radiologist involved necessarily disproves anything she’s saying either. Nor do I think it distracts from the real issue of moving detainees around. In my eyes, all this does is draw attention to it, and raise the alarm that abuse could happen and no one would know. Calling it a smoking gun may have been a stretch, but aside from that, I am still curious to know more.
"Open to being wrong" doesn't make broad stroking connections nor insinuate, behind the plausible deniability of a disclaimer, that someone could be performing such cruel acts.
This entire post reads of objectivity. It's irresponsible at best, dishonest more likely, though.
They just need you to change “behind” to “beyond and it’ll make more sense…
Good catch, I did mean "behind", I just needed commas. It's hard 'cause the keyboard lags and the comment input gets hidden on Chrome on my phone so it's a pain to be precise.
I don't know what to say about your first "sentence". It makes zero sense. Putting up a disclaimer is a perfectly legit way to establish plausible deniability.
Name one thing she lied about or learn what the word "dishonest" means.
All of that is available above in the thread.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is on the first sentence, I think it's pretty clear I'm pointing out some bias. The person she decided to correct wasn't even the instigator.
It seems like you might have a poor grasp of the English language. You might know what you were trying to say, but it's not at all clear to me. There are at least 7 gramatical errors depending on what you were trying to type. "insinuate behind" is a nonsense coupling of words. "'open to being wrong' doesn't make broad-stroke [not stroking] connections" what? You never finished that clause.
You said she (Drey?) is being dishonest. How? What, specifically, did she lie about? Give me a quote where she said something false.
Of course the author is bias. That doesn't make anything she said a lie.
Friend, you're also being intellectually dishonest & playing the same kind of games.
You're being a weirdo & I don't care to humor it.
Giving real aCkShAlLy energy here.
Also you're acting condescending while conflating 2 individual points I've made to be the same but questioning my grasp on the English language?
I said she was bias towards the person she was calling out, dip shit. Spend more time trying to comprehend a comment before going full neck beard.
Intellectual dishonesty is when you build a narrative on a foundational piece of evidence that was incorrect. If you're curious what that is, read the thread you're replying in.
The idea that I have to give you every single piece of context to the conversation that's ongoing for you to be able to decipher what I'm saying is moronic. If you want to prance around acting condescending, how about amass some authentic intelligence instead of this neck beard regurgitation?
WTF does your first sentence even mean? Is it intentional gibberish or are you possibly under-educated and out of your depth? Either way, I'm not hearing from you again.
Idk, our governments been doing it to whatever group they think people don’t care about: prisoners, black people, mentally disabled children, the military. Nazi Germany taught America the value of institutionalization for the purposes of human experimentation. The same web that allowed those abuses-the MIC-continues to exist for the benefit of the ruling elites. Profit on the destruction of humans. Sick people.
you have one follower and three posts, two from “lucky” . lol. you quasi fed DOGE AI freaks are SO incredibly TRANSPARENT. Like, really, you need to up ur game on the soc media scenario bc 🫢 i mean really, you should be embarrassed.
I mean, you could also engage in the points I made, but I doubt you'd want your paid subscription to go to waste.
no need for that kind of attitude.
Would you say that to the ones who instigated the poor behavior or just the one disagreeing with you?
This smells like a farce & come on, the comment you're responding to is so polite in response to the accusation from your subscriber.
Kind of telling of your integrity, so with the very loose gaps, I no longer believe you "missed information". I believe you're dishonest & just trying to get your 15 minutes on a conspiracy theory 0 day.
Seems like there's actually an abundant need for that kind of attitude here. Nobody is keeping you in check and your worst, sloppiest impulses are spinning out of control, and these unhinged commenters you're receiving are validating your poor work.
You called it. Transparent af.
Too many coincidences… would not surprise me.
GODDAM CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
Weird how so many people(?) Don't know that this kind of thing has been going on for a very long time
If neurolink we're being done to create the best possible product, the tests would simply end whenever it became most functional, and not by 2026.
MAKE A VIDEO AND ASK PEOPLE TO SAVE IT, SAYING THAT YOU WOULD NEVER COMMIT SUICIDE…
I want you to be safe
Y'all need to take some time off the internet.
You're the one replying to every comment. You and "lucky".
How many 'r's are in the word "strawberry"?
Is your theory really that everybody that is real would believe the same conspiracy fodder you believe? That can't possibly be your heuristic for deciding who is real or honest is it? What makes it so hard for you to believe that people that disagree with you don't exist? And why do you find it surprising that someone who disagrees with this nutty post would scroll through the comments and find them jarring (and possibly respond to them) because so many people believe the crazy?
Nope. I never said any of that. That's a pretty lousy straw-man you got there.
You implied it, pretty strongly. Don't be a weasel, if you're calling someone chatgpt because of their opinion, you're clearly suggesting that you believe someone with that opinion (opposing your opinion) can't be real.
So what *are* you saying then, if not that?
I implied that I suspect Patrick might be a bot. I suspect that for many reasons, none of which have to do with their opinion.
NOT *"believe"*, **suspect**
NOT *"is"*, **might be**
NOT *"everyone"*, just **Patrick**
NOT *"because of their opinion"*
I never said I believe this conspiracy theory. I find it compelling, but I don't see a smoking gun.
I never said my "heuristic for deciding who is real" is if someone believes what I believe. It isn't.
I never said it's "hard for [me] to believe that someone who disagrees with [me] don't [sic] exist". I know people who don't agree with me exist.
I never said I "find it suprising that someone who disagrees...". I don't.
That's at least 8 false assumptions all rolled up in your comment.
I'm not "[being] a weasel". I'm pointing out your straw-man.
I don't owe you an explaination of why I made the comment I made, but since you asked so "nicely":
My main reason for suspecting Patrick might be a robot is that my other conversation with him devolved quickly into nonsense. They wrote a garbled sentence that seems to be about the author hiding behind plausible deniability, but it's not clear. Then they claimed it was about "bias" and instead of clarifying what they meant to write, they claimed I was being intelectually dishonest. Like I was pretending to not understand a mangled sentence or something. They said OP was guilty of being "dishonest" and repeatedly failed to even address what she said that was a lie or misleading.
At first, I suspected English might not be their native language, but they denied any gramtical errors and use vocabulary that sugests otherwise. However, they seemed incapable of addressing previous comments and changed the subject nearly every reply.
I think it's dumb that someone posting so many replies in the comments of a single article would tell others to touch grass. I don't think that indicates a robot. Just a hypocrite who lacks self-awareness.
I think it's suspect that their account is so new and they only have one friend who's also replying to this one comment thread, but I'm also very new to sub-stack, so I don't think that's a smoking gun. Also, their handle "disruptingtheechochamber" doesn't particularly smack of bot. YouTube is crawling with bots and a big clue is usually a name like "VenomFang-a8e9fjen". When I see that, I check their profile and usually it's obvious. Like their account is brand new.
Over half of all engagement is generated by bots, so you start out with 50/50 chance any comment is from a bot apriori. I know Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, and many others are infested. I don't know about Substack.
Satisfied?
I receive an email, I click the link, I respond to it. How detached from the real world have you gotten?
Do us a favour and do the same, idiot.
I am confused. Why like my comment elsewhere that makes the same point in my retort if you're part of the "all opposition to this misinformation is hired by Elon" camp?
That confuses me. Which of us is misunderstanding?
It's really amusing to me how many of you invent your own story of what I'm doing or believe purely based on the most ambiguous criticism possible lol.
"Awfully invested" and "working hard" is fucking hilarious, though. Like I made I think 3-4 random comments lmao. I don't even remember this thread exists 'til one of you goofballs give me something to laugh at.
The problem isn't the investigation, the problem is the investigation failed. Immediately it failed. The first piece of foundational information is untrue.
I don't think this is difficult to grasp, but I recognize that this corner of the internet seems to be for conspiracy theorists who don't really subscribe to the whole "standards for evidence" thing.
I encourage investigation. I discourage lying. Hope that clears it up.
Also if your predictable response is "well you don't even explain how she's lying"; 438 others including myself have in these comments. I know reading on a subject with the possibility of disproving your preconceived notions might be against your nature, but indulge reality a bit just this once.
Happy New Year!
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The way to prove that nothing shady is happening to the detainees is to have transparent oversight into their detention process. That is not happening. So literally anything could be going on inside those walls. Rather than specific conspiracies (which may or may not be true), we should all be demanding to know how these people are being treated and cared for. There should be records and independent agencies checking on them to make sure they are being treated humanely.
or better yet, we could stop setting up these concentration camps altogether.
Agree!
Could you tell me where you get the death counts from brain problems at Krome from?? The one from January 2025 was not brain related but was rapid muscle breakdown, rhabdomyolysis. The one from December 2024 was kidney failure. Only one of those is brain related. These don't suggest patterns of brain surgery, they suggest patterns of neglecting medical care.
I found 3, Genry Ruiz-Guillén died to “schizoaffective disorder” Matsym Chernyak who died to seizures, brain bleeds ect. & Ramesh Amechand who (like others) have no cause of death. Idk if he counts but he fits the dates so I included
Genry Ruiz Guillen is the one who died of rhabdomyolysis, according to non-ICE affiliated physicians. Chernyak's own lawyer said he died from an overdose after ICE waited 40 minutes to call for medical help. Amechand reported chest pains before his death, but that's accord to ICE's own documentation. But no documentation that he died of anything brain related.
you have two followers and three posts, and suddenly appear for this. just pointing that out.
Not everyone uses Substack like that & they came across it from a share?
Like dude. Some of you just seem so far detached from normalcy. Is this a chronically online thing?
I also have only one post on substack. I don't post on substack, I read on substack. What's your point?
In August you saw heat map/incinerator activity near AA in the Everglades, are there similar patterns near the ICE facilities in Phoenix and Honolulu????
Please send this to Rachel Maddow at MSNBC. I'm sure you know who she is, she is a brilliant investigative journalist, Rhodes Scholar and fierce voice for the people. This needs to get put out to the public. It makes total sense that Elon Musk would do this because he has no care for humanity. This makes complete sense that they are using these detainees as Guinea pigs. Please be careful because people like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel have people “taken care of” when they get in their way 🙏 you sound a lot like me when I start going down the rabbit hole I can't stop, but you have a voice to get this out there 💪
Strange how you can see deception in very isolated cases. Everyone EVERYONE on t.v. is not who they pretend to be. That is the lowest hanging fruit
Terrifying. Gonna get worse before it gets better
Randall Gamboa Esquivel was disappeared to Port Isabel Detention Center with no contact with his family or legal representation. Port Isabel Detention Center is just a few miles North of Starbase.
Mr. Esquivel was just recently deported to Costa Rica in critical condition. He was in a vegitative state and pictures of him look strikingly like a concentration camp victim. His family was given no explaination. He died shortly after arriving home.
Hopefully an Autopsy report will be made public.
Another thing I find strange is: When you search Google for news of Randall Gamboa Esquivel, the closest thing to a major US news outlet is CNN Español. It reminds me of how little coverage the "right to rape" protests in Israel got. Barely anyone in the US even knows such madness took place.
It's distressing how much we have to rely on social media and foreign news outlets for actual news...
Looks like cause of death is still under investigation. The "toxic encephalopathy" mentioned struck me as particularly concerning... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/11/ice-deportation-costa-rica-man
Agreed. And then so much twisting occurs on socials that it’s extremely time consuming to actually get the real story….
You are correct. Same system they used on the military to experiment on humans in the 50s, with government NGO funding of university labs. They have a whole secret web. Atomic Energy Commission. Camp Lejeune. This didn’t just start.