You are beyond impressive Drey and blow absolutely every journalist that is independent out of the water. Your thoroughness + intelligence + delivery + personality are a quadruple threat!! I look forward to you setting the standards of reporting for all those behind and in front who seek to achieve excellence and pride in their work.
I'm so freaking glad that you're doing something on this issue on this subject because I was just talking about the papers and this multi-layer project they're working on and it's so serious oh my God thank you
If you were designing a system to enable population-level triage and deciding who gets resources, who gets care, who gets flagged as a security risk, who gets quietly deprioritized, you would want exactly what is being assembled. Comprehensive genomic data. Longitudinal health records. AI systems capable of running autonomous decisions without humans in the loop. Weakened oversight so no one can audit what the system is doing. A classification layer so the outputs can't be examined publicly. And you would want it consolidated under executive control, which is also what is happening. I see a culling coming, a Malthusian wet dream.
Were they gathering the cancer data in 1995? I was diagnosed then, and now I wonder. Although I’m thinking not because we weren’t as far ahead on DNA back then. Love to listen to you talk. Seems fast, but I don’t miss a word. Thank you 🙏 for all your efforts.
Lourdes, I’m really glad you’re here. One of the hardest parts of this story is remembering that none of this data is as abstract as the they try and make it seem; it comes from people’s actual lives, actual bodies, actual diagnoses, and actual survival. I’ll keep fighting if it’s with people like you!
And to answer your question — the SEER cancer registry goes back to 1973, so yes, your data from 1995 is very likely in a federal database (but fear not, he’s going to find all of our genomes one way or another..)
They used blood donor data too. See my poorly written post. Terumo BCT collects detailed data on donors. Sexual habits, medications, medical and genetic testing, travel histories, contacts - they have everything when people donate blood or plasma or platelets.
And many military, government, and critical infrastructure employees, (water, power, shipyards), donate to get a half or full day off.
Drey, I’m chill about all of this by now because it falls under the byline of “things out of my control,” all while staying alert to when I can make a difference. We ALL make a difference whether we realize it or not.
Thank you again for your drive, research, and energy. You are a big help to all of us!
I had BRCA genetic testing about 15 years ago because I am in the group with a very high rate of breast and ovarian cancers. It was part of a major hospital.research project my doctor was after me to have done. I was negative but no doubt I am in there. I honestly feel defiled. Now I'm a senior on Medicare in a cancer screening program at the same hospital for a different part of my body. If I get sick now I wonder if they will.deny my coverage. And think about all the people from "23 and me" and Ancestry who have innocently turned over their DNA for testing....
WOW, Robin, I hadn’t thought about the 23andMe folks who sent in their DNA to a company that is now being sold. Don’t know the status of that, but I’d want to know what’s going to happen to my DNA. Ironically, when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1995, they didn’t recommend we do any genetic testing for BRCA genes. Now that’s one of the first things they do. I’m just glad Drey checks these things out and shares them with us. I appreciate that. I’m sorry you’re experiencing cancer again, and I pray 🙏 for the most benevolent outcome for your you. In other words, I pray you are able to kiss it goodbye 👋
They told my cousin (my maternal uncle's daughter") she was part "Neanderthal". I said what??? Our families are from.Eastern Europe and came here at the turn of the century. Who.cares if we were all Neanderthals thousands and thousands of years ago? We were laughing. I don't think I've ever heard that by anyone other than those tested by 23 and me. I watch Finding Your Roots on PBS or " Who do you think you are" and I have never heard such nonsense. How do you find your long lost family members who are also Neanderthals? 😂
Interesting.National.Geographic (one of my favorite magazines I grew up with) Here's something I just found googling on Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA. Maybe it makes.sense to you.
Q: Such genetic testing services are illegal in which Middle Eastern state?
A: Well yes, obviously we all worked the answer out.... the interesting question is whether that is connected to this story or merely a fear of the 'historically ours' story of Zionist European colonists...
BRACA testing in the late 90’s was focused on a primary group. Early 2000’s is when they expanded. My mom was diagnosed in 98/99 and my genetics dr told me she wouldn’t have taken the test back then (she passed 15 months after diagnosis). Fast forward 22 years later and I was diagnosed at the same age se was. I do not have either of the BRACA genes or the others that are linked to BC (that they know of).
Mine was in the early 2000s too. My maternal.first cousin who was negative for BRCA still.got BC also, but luckily caught very early. My mother had breast cancer when I was 8 and she was 43. I have been having mammograms and sonograms since I am 33. All the doctors told me.to.start testing 10 years before my mom's age when she got it..She then got lung cancer so between both cancers she was sick on and off for 8 years until she died at almost 51 and I was 16.
Most important question...are you okay? Gene or not? That's the most important thing. Hope you are well 🙏
You're are such a lovely and sweet person Lourdes. I don't have cancer...yet I have had so many scares...biopsies,.CT scans, ultrasounds, etc. . It's only a matter of time. When I went for the BRCA testing, I was much younger, it was one August and I was going to lose my private medical insurance that was wonderful, and would have had to move to Obamacare by January, so if I was found to have the gene I would have had a preventative double mastectomy and hysterectomy, ovaries, everything by October under my original excellent insurance at my hospital that I love. My feeling was, if I have it, TAKE IT ALL. I still do. They gave me.great comfort. The geneticist at the hospital promised me it would all.be taken care of if I had it. Thankfully my sister and I didn't have it. The weak gene my family has is from my mother's maternal line. Everyone from that side of the family from my grandmother's side--male and female --have had.cancer. Breast, lung, blood, prostate, kidney, Hodgkin's. you name it. Ironically both of my mother's brothers kids have already had it too and they are my age and younger. and thankfully they are okay. 🙏.My female.cousin who had bRCA testing and was negative (because her younger brother.got kidney and Hodgkin's) wound up getting stage zero breast cancer and immediately had a double mastectomy and reconstruction . No cancer from my mother's father's.side. 🙄 None of her father's relatives had cancer. My father's side doesn't either. . Just my mom and her brother's and cousins all from my grandma's line. I KNOW ...with the 23 and me crowd!!!!I would be absolutely freaking our now. I won't even use my fingerprint to get into my phone.
Good to know you’re clear of cancer! I’m impressed at the testing you’ve had done, and how precisely you’ve been able to determine the factions of the family from which it comes. Kudos to you for persevering and making sure you’re clear. I’m amazed! However, all the things we’re learning these days about how they’re handling our data is horrible. Makes me not trust a soul, especially those from institutions. I get you not wanting to put your fingerprint on your phone. I’m going l to focus on the good that comes from these things because at least some have been helped. Not much else I can do.
2016 for me and my intuition was not to have the BRCA done but I ignored my intuition. Obviously they would have my data anyway. I was negative for BRCA.
Blacklisted. Cannot get a home loan- good credit doesn't matter. Stalked for years. FBI have labelled me a "supply chain threat". I had a sitting US senator call me "Russian disinformation" on the news.
Came home to my dog tortured and murdered, one day.
Had my truck windows pissed on.
My entire moving truck of things broken, pissed on, and stolen from.
Have had my business reported as fraudulent by people I have never met or done business with.
The privatizing of anything within government without control and real oversight is nihilistic. It's unfathomable that this corruption gets diffused! Our tax dollars don't get any real representation.
Your Mom is correct - You’re her heroine...and also a heroine for many, many others - Thank you for the amazing research, pattern recognition & shining light on all of this. Just WOW!
I am a theoretical nuclear physicist who has been seriously affected by this. I think it is much worse than even the critics realize. Almost everyone has lost funding. Postdocs are abruptly being fired. Grad students are sitting in hallways crying.
Data showing the effects of funding awards can be found here:
Administrators from the funding agencies are telling us in private that we essentially need to commit fraud if are to expect to secure funding. Make up anything, just claim that it has something to do with AI.
The earlier thing you wrote about the amount of energy that was headed for that area was amazing, and now this! You are an incredible researcher. Thank you so much!!
It's interesting... maybe I didnt realize at a younger age just how sick some people could be. i knew there were some f'd up folks out there, but hadn't considered that they could make me feel il.
And yet, we still must acknowledge the truths of people with whom we share this reality.
The LDS mythology, their genealogical research, and that data in a cave somewhere in Utah does have similarities to this. That as a voting block they are conservative, and as a church, they function more like a big business also is concerning.
You are beyond impressive Drey and blow absolutely every journalist that is independent out of the water. Your thoroughness + intelligence + delivery + personality are a quadruple threat!! I look forward to you setting the standards of reporting for all those behind and in front who seek to achieve excellence and pride in their work.
i second this, her work is stellar and curated so well!
she speaks in the most relatable way
I'm so freaking glad that you're doing something on this issue on this subject because I was just talking about the papers and this multi-layer project they're working on and it's so serious oh my God thank you
If you were designing a system to enable population-level triage and deciding who gets resources, who gets care, who gets flagged as a security risk, who gets quietly deprioritized, you would want exactly what is being assembled. Comprehensive genomic data. Longitudinal health records. AI systems capable of running autonomous decisions without humans in the loop. Weakened oversight so no one can audit what the system is doing. A classification layer so the outputs can't be examined publicly. And you would want it consolidated under executive control, which is also what is happening. I see a culling coming, a Malthusian wet dream.
Not just counting calories....
So they decides who lives and who dies. I was the experiment
It's a Brave New World. Read it.
Were they gathering the cancer data in 1995? I was diagnosed then, and now I wonder. Although I’m thinking not because we weren’t as far ahead on DNA back then. Love to listen to you talk. Seems fast, but I don’t miss a word. Thank you 🙏 for all your efforts.
Lourdes, I’m really glad you’re here. One of the hardest parts of this story is remembering that none of this data is as abstract as the they try and make it seem; it comes from people’s actual lives, actual bodies, actual diagnoses, and actual survival. I’ll keep fighting if it’s with people like you!
And to answer your question — the SEER cancer registry goes back to 1973, so yes, your data from 1995 is very likely in a federal database (but fear not, he’s going to find all of our genomes one way or another..)
They used blood donor data too. See my poorly written post. Terumo BCT collects detailed data on donors. Sexual habits, medications, medical and genetic testing, travel histories, contacts - they have everything when people donate blood or plasma or platelets.
And many military, government, and critical infrastructure employees, (water, power, shipyards), donate to get a half or full day off.
Sounds like -- exactly like -- an exposition of the way property taxes work according to a clever neighbor on Front Door.
Drey, I’m chill about all of this by now because it falls under the byline of “things out of my control,” all while staying alert to when I can make a difference. We ALL make a difference whether we realize it or not.
Thank you again for your drive, research, and energy. You are a big help to all of us!
I had BRCA genetic testing about 15 years ago because I am in the group with a very high rate of breast and ovarian cancers. It was part of a major hospital.research project my doctor was after me to have done. I was negative but no doubt I am in there. I honestly feel defiled. Now I'm a senior on Medicare in a cancer screening program at the same hospital for a different part of my body. If I get sick now I wonder if they will.deny my coverage. And think about all the people from "23 and me" and Ancestry who have innocently turned over their DNA for testing....
WOW, Robin, I hadn’t thought about the 23andMe folks who sent in their DNA to a company that is now being sold. Don’t know the status of that, but I’d want to know what’s going to happen to my DNA. Ironically, when I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1995, they didn’t recommend we do any genetic testing for BRCA genes. Now that’s one of the first things they do. I’m just glad Drey checks these things out and shares them with us. I appreciate that. I’m sorry you’re experiencing cancer again, and I pray 🙏 for the most benevolent outcome for your you. In other words, I pray you are able to kiss it goodbye 👋
Oh yeah 23 & me is a WILD one
They told my cousin (my maternal uncle's daughter") she was part "Neanderthal". I said what??? Our families are from.Eastern Europe and came here at the turn of the century. Who.cares if we were all Neanderthals thousands and thousands of years ago? We were laughing. I don't think I've ever heard that by anyone other than those tested by 23 and me. I watch Finding Your Roots on PBS or " Who do you think you are" and I have never heard such nonsense. How do you find your long lost family members who are also Neanderthals? 😂
When National Geographic’s Human Genome Project was actively collecting data (saliva swab in a test tube) both my husband and my brother participated.
Their reports listed geographic history of human migration via genetic links to when and where haplo groups evolved.
Both Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA percentages were also included in the reports.
It was interesting, but now seems creepy
Interesting.National.Geographic (one of my favorite magazines I grew up with) Here's something I just found googling on Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA. Maybe it makes.sense to you.
https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/dtcgenetictesting/neanderthaldna/
Directions on the cave wall?
Q: Such genetic testing services are illegal in which Middle Eastern state?
A: Well yes, obviously we all worked the answer out.... the interesting question is whether that is connected to this story or merely a fear of the 'historically ours' story of Zionist European colonists...
I have no idea what you are talking about, but your anti-semetism is coming through loud and clear.
Oh Robin! How sweet of you to try old fashioned Hasbara, version 1.0 on me! Now that does take me back to 2023...
Meanwhile, it seems from your other comments on here that there us a great many things that fail to elevate you from your obstinate ignorance.
BRACA testing in the late 90’s was focused on a primary group. Early 2000’s is when they expanded. My mom was diagnosed in 98/99 and my genetics dr told me she wouldn’t have taken the test back then (she passed 15 months after diagnosis). Fast forward 22 years later and I was diagnosed at the same age se was. I do not have either of the BRACA genes or the others that are linked to BC (that they know of).
Mine was in the early 2000s too. My maternal.first cousin who was negative for BRCA still.got BC also, but luckily caught very early. My mother had breast cancer when I was 8 and she was 43. I have been having mammograms and sonograms since I am 33. All the doctors told me.to.start testing 10 years before my mom's age when she got it..She then got lung cancer so between both cancers she was sick on and off for 8 years until she died at almost 51 and I was 16.
Most important question...are you okay? Gene or not? That's the most important thing. Hope you are well 🙏
Yes, all part of the plan. For Eugenics they need the best, healthiest specimens. Who do you think those giant detention centers are for? Sorry!
You're are such a lovely and sweet person Lourdes. I don't have cancer...yet I have had so many scares...biopsies,.CT scans, ultrasounds, etc. . It's only a matter of time. When I went for the BRCA testing, I was much younger, it was one August and I was going to lose my private medical insurance that was wonderful, and would have had to move to Obamacare by January, so if I was found to have the gene I would have had a preventative double mastectomy and hysterectomy, ovaries, everything by October under my original excellent insurance at my hospital that I love. My feeling was, if I have it, TAKE IT ALL. I still do. They gave me.great comfort. The geneticist at the hospital promised me it would all.be taken care of if I had it. Thankfully my sister and I didn't have it. The weak gene my family has is from my mother's maternal line. Everyone from that side of the family from my grandmother's side--male and female --have had.cancer. Breast, lung, blood, prostate, kidney, Hodgkin's. you name it. Ironically both of my mother's brothers kids have already had it too and they are my age and younger. and thankfully they are okay. 🙏.My female.cousin who had bRCA testing and was negative (because her younger brother.got kidney and Hodgkin's) wound up getting stage zero breast cancer and immediately had a double mastectomy and reconstruction . No cancer from my mother's father's.side. 🙄 None of her father's relatives had cancer. My father's side doesn't either. . Just my mom and her brother's and cousins all from my grandma's line. I KNOW ...with the 23 and me crowd!!!!I would be absolutely freaking our now. I won't even use my fingerprint to get into my phone.
Good to know you’re clear of cancer! I’m impressed at the testing you’ve had done, and how precisely you’ve been able to determine the factions of the family from which it comes. Kudos to you for persevering and making sure you’re clear. I’m amazed! However, all the things we’re learning these days about how they’re handling our data is horrible. Makes me not trust a soul, especially those from institutions. I get you not wanting to put your fingerprint on your phone. I’m going l to focus on the good that comes from these things because at least some have been helped. Not much else I can do.
2016 for me and my intuition was not to have the BRCA done but I ignored my intuition. Obviously they would have my data anyway. I was negative for BRCA.
They used you. Now they know your weaknesses. If you 'become a problem' - you can expect consequences like I have suffered
What are you talking aboit? What have you suffered?
Blacklisted. Cannot get a home loan- good credit doesn't matter. Stalked for years. FBI have labelled me a "supply chain threat". I had a sitting US senator call me "Russian disinformation" on the news.
Came home to my dog tortured and murdered, one day.
Had my truck windows pissed on.
My entire moving truck of things broken, pissed on, and stolen from.
Have had my business reported as fraudulent by people I have never met or done business with.
The list goes on and on.
Love your personality disorder! 🙏💪🏼🤩
It's not a disorder. It's a superpower
The privatizing of anything within government without control and real oversight is nihilistic. It's unfathomable that this corruption gets diffused! Our tax dollars don't get any real representation.
Your Mom is correct - You’re her heroine...and also a heroine for many, many others - Thank you for the amazing research, pattern recognition & shining light on all of this. Just WOW!
I agree with you bring your mom’s hero. You are mine, too! I’m so glad you’re doing this footwork for us. Very grateful!
Lourdes
I am a theoretical nuclear physicist who has been seriously affected by this. I think it is much worse than even the critics realize. Almost everyone has lost funding. Postdocs are abruptly being fired. Grad students are sitting in hallways crying.
Data showing the effects of funding awards can be found here:
https://grant-witness.us/funding_curves.html
Administrators from the funding agencies are telling us in private that we essentially need to commit fraud if are to expect to secure funding. Make up anything, just claim that it has something to do with AI.
I’m so sorry this is happening. This is so freaking scary.
I vote Splinternet for word of the year 2026
I second that 🧐
The earlier thing you wrote about the amount of energy that was headed for that area was amazing, and now this! You are an incredible researcher. Thank you so much!!
What could go wrong? 🙈🙉🙊
Thank you Drey👍🏻
"She says I’m her hero. She’s mine. Always has been.
Happy Mother’s Day, I love you a whole lot."Nicely done, Drey
It's interesting... maybe I didnt realize at a younger age just how sick some people could be. i knew there were some f'd up folks out there, but hadn't considered that they could make me feel il.
And yet, we still must acknowledge the truths of people with whom we share this reality.
What a trip
In Utah?
The LDS mythology, their genealogical research, and that data in a cave somewhere in Utah does have similarities to this. That as a voting block they are conservative, and as a church, they function more like a big business also is concerning.
They are behind "Ancestry dot com". I have never understood why the LDS were behind all the genealogical research.
And they wonder why folks don’t want to have kids.